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Hey NBA, Stop Embarrassing College Hoops

By Vito Forlenza
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:45:01 GMT

For all the grief we give Major League Baseball–its failure to admit it had a drug problem, its resistance to instant replay, its inability to make even minor changes without lengthy negotiations with the players’ union–it is a pioneer when it comes to drafting amateur talent.

So when it comes to the NBA draft, David Stern ought to take a cue from MLB.

Instead of forcing players to go to college for one year like the NBA or refusing to even evaluate them out of high school like the NFL, MLB does not have a problem with its teams drafting high school talent. It doesn’t interfere with contract negotiations. It doesn’t worry about which outpost prospects end up in.

But if a player chooses the college ranks over the pros, that’s when MLB gets involved. Baseball essentially bans players from its fields once they commit to a four-year college until after their junior year or their 21st birthday. The only way to break that commitment is by petitioning the commissioner’s office.

The message is simple: If you’re good enough, we’ll take you. If not, we’ll see ya when you’re ready.

Why can’t the NBA understand that this setup is a win-win for all involved?

David Stern is a smart guy. He has to know that his league’s age requirement—instituted after LeBron was drafted (convenient)—is a farce. It leads to too many one-and-dones and makes a flat-out mockery of the college game.

Just look at this year’s draft pool—a one-and-done haven: Michael Beasley, Derrick Rose, Kevin Love, O.J. Mayo, Jerryd Bayless, Eric Gordon. All are following in the path carved out last year by Kevin Durant and Greg Oden. All knew from the moment they signed their letters of intent that it was a one-year contract.

How can the NCAA let this happen?

If a player is good enough and has absolutely no interest in going to college, he shouldn’t be forced to sit through Econ 101 daydreaming about his pro career and praying he doesn’t suffer a career-ending injury in that night's game.

But if he’s not drafted out of high school, he needs to make a college commitment that is longer than eight months.

The MLB model is ideal. But a lot can happen in three years and the NBA might be more receptive to an alternate arrangement.

So here it goes: Just like in MLB, high school players should be eligible for the draft. If they are not selected, they head off to the college of their choice. Once in college, they could declare for the draft only once over four years, and the earliest that declaration could be made is after their second year in school. Basically, underclassmen would be allowed to declare for the draft after their sophomore or junior seasons—but not both.

Why not both? Because there’s a wrinkle.

If a player chooses to remove himself from consideration before the draft or is not drafted at all, that player must go back to school and complete his scholarship commitment. Whether that’s one, two, or even three years (if there’s a redshirt involved) left on the scholarship, the player must remain in school for the duration.

For example, North Carolina’s Ty Lawson, Wayne Ellington, and Danny Green each removed their names from the NBA draft last week, opting to return to Chapel Hill after learning their stock wasn’t nearly as high as they thought it to be. Under my proposal, Lawson and Ellington—both entering their junior seasons—would be required to play two more years for the Tar Heels. As for Green, who is entering his senior season, the circumstances wouldn’t change for him, which proves the sensibility of this plan.

The NCAA might claim that the system would lead to improper contact between players and agents. Like that’s not already happening. This process would only get those otherwise shady dealings out in the open.

Players might claim it hinders their ability to make a living. Hey, if you don’t like it, go play in Europe.

The NBA and NCAA must work together to stop this trend of one-and-dones. And replace it with a system that benefits the league, the colleges, and, most importantly, the welfare of kids who are affected most by this asinine arrangement.

Do you think this proposal would work? Click here to comment.

Message Edited by Vito_Forlenza on 08-07-2008 11:14 AM
vito!!! you're back!!! very exciting and i like the new look of vitos view. this is classic vito you have here with the comeback. that's right, call out the nba for stupid rule and the colleges for letting this happen. this has to be one of the worst rules in the history of sports! 19 to play pro ball! making kids go to college for a year! the colleges letting this happen! i call bs! thanks for giving it to them vito!

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:21:47 GMT | isshinryu

I agree with your proposal but make one addition; I would like to see the Olympic team consist of college players rather than allowing players who skip college to represent the U.S. This is a 'reward' for players who chose to advance their education first rather than opt for immediate riches. This was the first "mockery" made of college sports. The Olympics were set up to celebrate sportsmanship and competitive sport and we traditionally rewarded collegiate athletes with this honor. Athletes who opt to enter the world of "sports entertainment" should be immediately disqualified. Therefore, Kobe and LaBron and all non-collegians before them, have not met the minimum qualification to represent the U.S.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:52:43 GMT | Dogteam42

College is not for everyone. If a student-athlete feels he is ready after his first year, who are we to suggest he isn't. The NBA's huge contracts and guaranteed money is very appealing for any student-athlete from any economic background. You have to realize that the number of players who enter the NBA or even play overseas is so small in comparison to all college/high school basketball players who aspire to play in "The League." Therefore, if someone has the talent of: Darrell Dawkins, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Amari Stoudemire, Labron James, Carmelo Anthony, Jermaine O'neil, O'jay Mayo, Derrick Rose, Eric Gordon, etc. and so on...all is fair!

Let's research the college's who educate their student-athlete's for 4years or less and who are not living productive lives and lack skills to communicate and adapt to the general working class! Just as well, there are many student-athletes that excel in college and within their communities after they have completed their education. Players who are "one and done" generally come out of universities that are usually top 50 schools for hoops who make millions during the season and surely during the road to the final four (ticket sales, jersey sales, etc)! The financial gains of the university(s) surely outweigh the scholarship offered to the student!!!! I have a Master's...nevertheless, if I could be drafted in the 1st round I too would be one and done!

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:37:48 GMT | Wig-piece

Why does the NCAA make ineligble a basketball player who opts for the draft but is not drafted, yet allows a freshman in baseball to be drafted but come back to play if he chooses not go to the minors. Or am I wrong in my understandi.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:41:20 GMT | Grabber

i think it's a great idea. i never knew that rule existed being that i don't follow baseball.forcing a kid to go to college is definately not the answer. i'm pretty sure david stern is aware of the rule, but probably won't admit that his idea is stupid.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:42:49 GMT | bigchefin

USA would not have a boxing team if we did it your way Dogteam42...

Message Edited by Wig-piece on 06-26-2008 10:52 AM

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:48:46 GMT | Wig-piece

Very good question Grabber! One should always be welcomed back to get his/her education!

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:50:53 GMT | Wig-piece

I think your right on the money with this. I have always believed that a player who enters college on scholarship and plays for one year and then ops out of the scholarship to the NBA should have to pay back the scholarship. They just used a university (or took) to get to the NBA due to the current rules. I love the idea that the NBA scouts determine if a high school kid is good enough and then will draft them. You do not declare for the draft out of high school, but you can be picked. If your not good enough at 18 (or what ever age) coming out of high school then you need to go somewhere and prove yourself - whether that be college for two years or Europe. If the player is not mature enough then you will see either the player mature at both levels or pushed to the side.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:58:55 GMT | MJSmith

Who are you to decide that the profiteering NCAA should be allowed to use young talented future NBA stars to line their pockets for as long as they desire?
Coaches can switch teams whenever, AD's can move wherever, they make millions.

No, when the NCAA starts taking care of these kids like their supposed to, then you can make this statement--- these kids live, eat and die basketball--school is secondary, they go on road trips, their coaches run their lives--it is a JOB. EVERY kid on a team should get free education, a place to live and some type of marginal income (8-12K a school year) so they don't have to accept money from boosters, sports agents, etc.. and there is a real reason to go 3-4 years.

Also, who is going to pay for a players NBA career when he tears a knee up? You??? The pompous white duo of Miles Brand/David Stern????

See it for what it is people, a BUSINESS that reaps billions and repays very little.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:00:20 GMT | lawdog76

Makes sense what you are saying to a certain extent. Especially the idea about allowing a player to declare for the draft only once during his four years of eligibility. Then if he comes back he has to honor the remaining years of his scholarship. One problem....scholarships are done a year to year basis. Basically they are one year contracts. That is why a coach can take over a program and get rid of guys he does not want. Sure, they always come up with a reason. You cannot blame the NCAA on this one as dysfunctional as that organization is. Something has to be put in place and face it, the NBA could care less about the NCAA. Is the NBA not serving as a safe haven for Kelvin Sampson? How many lives to that selfish a-- affect? The NBA and NCAA are two businesses in competition.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:03:02 GMT | basketball22

You hit the nail on the head! Unlike the NCAA, you're thumb isn't in the way. Now why not get on a roll and figure out a solution to the lack of playoffs in NCAA football.

Also, the comment about only college hoopers playing in the Olympics doesn't make sense if we ever want to have a chance of winning again. We started using our pros because everyone else was using theirs. Not to mention we were getting smashed.

luv

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:16 GMT | rawLuv

The main problem with this proposal is the effect it would have on college basketball. There has been an increase in the balance of talent over the years, as proven by the the rise of the Mid Majors, and this proposal would stop that. The only way non power house schools can compete with schools like North Carolina and Duke is the fact that the pro level players are "one and done". The power house schools always have and always will get most of the top players. It's the fact that they can't keep a starting 5 for two or more years that allow other schools to build up teams that can compete with the endless rotation of top talent that NC, Duke, Kansas, USC, etc. get. If these schools were to keep these pro level players for multiple years we would be seeing many more years of final fours consisting of all #1 seeds. And let's not fool ourselves, whether these kids stay for one year or three, they have no intention of getting an education, they will simply be waiting longer for their payday.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:11:51 GMT | sophist4

Vito,

As a baseball coach I have said this for years. Your idea has merit. But I would not change it from baseball. Let the ballers go to JuCo, just like baseball if they want to be drafted after their freshmen or sophomore year. They could be drafted up to five times.

Unfortunately the NCAA is more worried about $ and lawsuits.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:16:48 GMT | BlackHightops

sophist -

I think you are dead wrong. The big boys, Duke, UNC, Kentuckey, Kansas, etc., are all getting these one and done guys. Not the mid majors. The big boys just continue to get one big guy after another under the current system and rebuild year after year. This proposal will take up scholarships from the big boys and which will force other top talent down to the mid majors because there are only so many spots available for the big guns. I think this plan will actually help to spread the talent around not consolidate it.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:18:32 GMT | SleepinFishes

In case you have forgotten, the NBA originally asked for a two year period after high school before a player could be drafted. The Players' Union wanted only one year and the NBA agreed. However, unlike MLB, the NBA does not have a minor league system for a player to work on and improve his skills.

If there was a minor league system for basketball, then you should be able to draft a kid out of high school. Personally, I think the NBA should be more like the NFL and not allow a college player to enter the draft until after their junior year.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:19:03 GMT | Tiggertgr

Why would anyone want to watch NBA basketball? The game has been in the tank for a generation and is no longer a sport. It has degenerated into entertainment- a mere TV show.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:29:07 GMT | DrJim

Great point. College is supposed to be about student-athletes. The adjective/noun, student, comes first for a reason. Too many colleges have athletes struggling to be students as it is. It is ludacris for a guy good enough to make it to the NBA out of high school having to fake it till they make it in classes their freshman year. And a lot of these guys(actually most of them) do not have wealthy parents, who could ensure their body for a million dollars, with Lloyds of London, just in case they incurred a career ending injury while playing college ball for that one year. It is possible a lessor talented player would have enough talent for college ball and he could get that NBA player in waiting's scholarship. The guy may not go to the NBA but as a student athlete he may one day make a more important contribution to society than dunking a basketball. One of the differences in baseball players out of high school foregoing the pros for college is few of them are first round draft picks at that point. Also, a lot of them have parents pretty much telling them they are going to school. It makes no sense to lose all of your college eligibility in baseball when that was your ticket to a four year scholarship, only to accept being drafted into single A ball as the umpteenth pick. It is a long way from A ball to AAA much less the majors. Unless of course, you are a first round pick. But those are few and far between out of high school.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:33:28 GMT | jwayneseivers

With all the money the NBA is willing to pay these young players who wouldn't go one and done? However, we wonder why the player who was breezed through high school and given assignments that were not too difficult in college can't tell the difference between adulthood responsibilities and standing on the corner with his buddies with a 3 million dollar check he just received from the NBA. Granted, there are many talented basketball players who want to make the move to the NBA as quickly as possible. But no one seems to be interested in education. You can sit him in a room and tell him how he should conduct himself but unless it was instilled prior to that...don't expect miracles. Take a lesson from Major League Baseball.

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:18:39 GMT | Bearcub

Vito, you have way to much time on your hands. The system that is in place helps bring in a more mature athelete. In most cases!

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:27 GMT | Rosecity_503

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